Yeah!
SLA?
Torque arm?
350ci.?
Aero package other than a brick?
Let us Fairmont drivers have the above too so we can play and set lap records - let alone win a race.
zzzaaaa plaaane boss..zzzaaaaaa plane
Life is good on GM island.
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Yeah!
SLA?
Torque arm?
350ci.?
Aero package other than a brick?
Let us Fairmont drivers have the above too so we can play and set lap records - let alone win a race.
zzzaaaa plaaane boss..zzzaaaaaa plane
Life is good on GM island.
And spark plugs ... don't forget spark plugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMC17
You guys also need spark plugs that actually fire in order to be fast.
Yep, lesson learned there - DON'T DROP ONE! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
From 164hp to 219hp - I'm still shy by a lot to compete in CMC not CMC-2!!! ;)
back in '05 i was getting my ass handed to me regularly. spent alot of time working on the set-up. i've changed nothing but rear springs and front shocks. i havent pulled anyone down the straights, so drop the 350ci excuse. some of you guys would be really fast if your set-up was better. James has the same back ground i have w/ the added dirt track stuff. he also has a set-up i pointed him to. once he gets a nice shock, he will be deadly fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
wasnt it all ford 1/2/3 for '05? a GM 1/2/3 in '06 is the end of the world? '05 was a fox, '06 was a 3rd gen GM, hope this year is a 4th gen GM on top. thats 3 of the 4 allowed platforms in 3 years. looks like its pretty even to me. but hey wanna let me drop the extra 50lbs i carry over everone else?
This point is always misunderstood by guys with 350's when coming from a guy with a 5L.
Until you are in the position of being short of the number, you aren't seeing it.
Throwing numbers out the window is a lot easier than building within the confines of the rule set to get TO that number.
jb
I was talking to "Fantasy Al" who thinks it's all platform even steven, Glenn, but since you've taken up the cause I'll give you my $.02 worth on your response.
I give you and JB and even JP your due, the hard work and great setups have paid off handsomely. But taking a new driver to the front with a new car in a borrowed setup is hardly evidence of "even platforms" which is what Mr. Fernandez is saying we have. In fact, I think it proves the inherent advantages of the GM's out of the gate. Tell me who was even close last event in a Ford?? Varner was .8 slower than the top 3 GM's best with his best. Pretty far out of reach from EVEN STEVEN, but Al thinks we have parity.
From where I sit, the GM guys finally learned to take advantage of the platform they already had back in 05. You should not be penalized for it, but for me to sit on my hands while Mr. Fernandez comes in with the west coast strut and spews the "all's fair from up here" viewpoint is a bit of sugar coating IMHO.
I too was addressing the issues with the gen IV cars. It's an EZ-mode ride with the table top torque curve compared to a 5.0L.
To each his own, but to say things are on a level playing field is down right silllllly.
Damn ... finally some real drama! WooHoo! Been way too quiet around here. Glad you guys finally decided to show back up.
James is ANYTHING but new. Mike, you are one of the ones who, I think, don't put much stock into HPDE. Trust me, it helps take a LOT of tools needed to go W2W out of the equation. And then add in a couple years of WEEKLY W2W racing on dirt tracks sorta handles the other side of the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
The boy is a seasoned vet with more laps logged W2W than most any of us, I dare say.
When cars equal out, the "driver's" rise to the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
Mike, you car looked like it was on ice, from the control tower and from in-car video. No one out there is having to pitch the car like you are to get it to rotate. It surprises me you finish as high as you do.
Glenn and I spent a crap load of time, tires, brakes and entry fees to DEs tuning. We changed things from end of my car to the other trying to find the sweet spot. It was no "out of the gate" or "arrive and drive" as you suggest. We got Darron to take 2 different set ups out last year and he gave us great feedback. It was a tremendous help to get a fresh set of butt cheeks perspective.
Maybe you need to do the same thing with your stable.
That's not a slam, rather the GM camp was EXACTLY where you are today, 2 years ago. If you go back and look, we whined and cried about restrictor plates and weight disadvantages. We learned that to get to the front, figger out what's wrong instead of asking for relief.
For laughs, I suggest you guys throw in a stock Windosr and then choke it down so that it gets 50% of it's normal air and then live life with extra cubes.
Now that's funny, right there ... I don't care who ya are ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
so my sucess is not due to a good qual spot? something Eric was not able to do because of motor issues - dare i say - that were self inflicted? (for the past 2 events!)
so because i did not have to fight the "pack" in R1 and R3 @ MSR-C, and i checked out (on my home track) much like Eric has himself in the past (at his home track) when he secured a good qual spot, i have an unfair advantage w/ the platform i choose to race?
i really get it now.
Eric does well cause he's a great driver.
Glenn does well cause his car has an advantage over the field.
so i still suck, but my car is dialed in.
do i have all this right?
guess thats better than "i still suck, but so does my set-up."
so what the deal w/ Jeff holding the track record? he's .2 faster than me. i guess i suck about 2 tenths more than Jeff. why all the 4th gen crap and not the 3rd gen crap?
there is always a reason why one's own performance is subpar. in this case its due to the #70 being a 4th gen w/ a 350. :roll: