Actually, I wasn't being sarcastic. It must be a great feeling to know your brake pedal will be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSharp
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Actually, I wasn't being sarcastic. It must be a great feeling to know your brake pedal will be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSharp
Unless you have brake lines from discbrakesrus.com!! :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
The intent is not to keep every single component stock, otherwise we would not allow aftermarket radiators, coolers, alternate water/oil/power steering pumps, etc. etc. The intent is to provide a safe, competitive environment while minimizing cost. We're focusing on lifetime cost, not first cost.
The parts we allowed will last dramatically longer than stock ones on these CMC-2 cars and will pay off the investment over time. They will not stop a car faster though, so if you dont want to spend the money...great! The whole idea was to give drivers the option, instead of just saying "learn to not use your brakes" :D
I will rephrase my question. How many people, AI or CMC, GM or Ford, has ever had a PBR caliper failure? Just wondering.
I have two bent calipers. Front PBR's. I have photos somewhere.
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Originally Posted by BSharp
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
Mitch,
Not to question a person who holds nuclear power in the palm of his hands, but.....
I use the same GM PBR front calipers as pretty much everybody else on my Mustang without any significant taper wear problems. So that made me wonder what is different between my setup and yours that might account for tapered wear and came up with the fact that other components may be "flexing" such as spindle, hub, rotor, etc. Not that Mustang components are superior, but they are different. The caliper itself may not be the only culprit.
I also have had some history with the PBR rear calipers from the Camaros and Corvettes. I have known a few folks to have pad knock-back problems when those were the "upgrade" rear disc setup for Mustang from places like Baer. The rear axles would flex under cornering and push the pads back into the caliper. The next turn, you would have pump the pedal as you describe. These cars changed to the Ford/Varga (AKA stock 94 and up Mustang) rear caliper and the problem was eliminated. This problem can easily be causing some confusion especially when mixed with the front taper wear issue.
This makes me wonder if the othe Cambirds are having the same problem and/or what they may be doing differently.
I hope this helps or at least gives some food for thought.
Mmmmmm...food. Is it lunchtime yet?
It just occurred to me what the deal is here ... we're not comparing apples to apples ...
The 2 piston PBR caliper, like I've seen the BAER calipers, Cobra calipers and C4 calipers are not the same PBR calipers that came on a 98+ Cambird.
Totally different animal.
Maybe I have oranges ... ;)
Finally, my car is at least 100lbs heavier (me) than the other guys ...
There you go. I run the C4 calipers.
Chevy bakes + my Ford engine = slow in, slow out
Nice to see this was up for comment before becoming set in stone...
I agree with Adam.. A Sedan here we come.
How will this affect future integration of CMC and CMC2? Combining the two classes is still an eventual goal, right?
Which eligible vehicle comes stock with 4 piston calipers that the other makes need to upgrade to be equal?
Since we may not get a chance, I'll go on record now to say that CMC does not need 4 piston calipers.